The article proposes a clarification of the role of ideas and revolutionary ideologies within the framework of modern revolutionary process theories focused on the state. These approaches, created within the framework of sociology and political science, emphasize the "objectivity" of a revolution, in contrast to the classical historical approaches with their emphasis on the role of revolutionary ideas and ideologies in explaining the logic of revolutionary processes. The article proposes a combination of historical and sociopolitical approaches to analyzing the role of ideas in revolutionary processes based on the understanding of the state as a dialectic of strategic rationality and communicative rationality (Jurgen Habermas). The author demonstrates the key role of ideas for explaining various results of revolutions in the form of ideologies of a new revolutionary state in the context of analysis of some theoretical comparative studies of the revolutionary processes (Michael Mann and Misagh Parsa).